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Koni shocks

Postby GoldBarBill » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:53 pm

I am considering upgrading my Spyder to Konis. What is the correct model#/color for the fronts and rears? AND..........does anybody have a top and side curtains for sale?

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby JRGilbert » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:24 am

I just put Koni's on my Spyder. The number is 80 1787. The best deal I could find was at the Tire Rack. $188 for the pair. I have a top and bows for Beck but should fit all $1,000. I'd like to use them myself but too tall. I would never be able to get in the car with the top up.
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Re: Koni shocks

Postby Larry Jowdy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:40 pm

As many of you know, I've worked on many, many spyders and speedsters. As such, I've driven many replica's with Koni's. In my opinion, Koni's don't work as well as good old KYB's.
Koni's are way to stiff even on the softest setting. In my opinion, you lose ride quality and handling because they make the car under steer more rapidly. But, it's your choice. On a heavier car such as a Porsche 911 or Corvette or Mustang, they work great.
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Re: Koni shocks

Postby RVosari » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:49 am

Regarding the Konis...I believe the adjustable ones are # 80 - 1350 and adjust from a "stock" setting (like the Brazilian shocks) to almost double that...Unfortunately they don't have a top-ring adjuster...so you have compress and turn the shock physically to affect adjustment.

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby Larry Jowdy » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:00 am

Unfortunately Koni's softest setting is way stiffer than a stock shock absorber. Over the many years I've worked on my car and customer replica cars, I've found that the most bang for the buck is a set of KYB shocks. At $145.00 for all 4, that's a pretty good deal.
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Re: Koni shocks

Postby GoldBarBill » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:13 am

Thanks for the responses! Do you know the part numbers for the KYB's?

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby Larry Jowdy » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:28 am

check out the last KYB's on the page Gas Adjust: http://www.shockwarehouse.com/index.cfm ... de=results
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Re: Koni shocks

Postby JRGilbert » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:50 am

You folks must have really smooth roads. I have Koni's on my BMW Z4 and the Spyder.
The number I quoted are adjustable. I'm running the softest setting. I've had Koni's on nearly everything I've owned in the last 30 years.
THey have worked well for me.
If you drive on the superslab I guess the stock shocks would be fine.

It's a sports car...not a Cadillac.

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby RVosari » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:15 am

Not a Cadillac you say… [:0]

I am sure that Beck, Vintage and Thunder Road do not use the same torsion bar packs! I have surreptitiously bounced on a few fenders of all types and some are stiff…and some much less so…and this has nothing to do with shocks.

I have also leaned on a variety of Beetle fenders…over the last 50 years and they vary as well, but most are much softer than the Spyders.

So what’s the takeaway…you have to match shocks to your suspension ! #-o

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby GoldBarBill » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:55 am

So, is it the KYB's 343144 front and rear?

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby beck688 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:15 pm

I asked Chuck about shocks - he said that regular old VW shocks are fine. The car seems to work best when there is a little roll - counter intuitive but it seems to work pretty well.

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby danstern » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:04 pm

Not totally counter- intuitive, softer shocks keep the tires in contact with the road and these are really light cars.
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Re: Koni shocks

Postby DannyP » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:59 am

I have the same shocks as JR Gilbert above. I find them to ride just fine at the softest setting, but mine are 70's NOS. The drawback is you have to remove the shocks to adjust them.

I've never liked the roll component of the Spyder handling. I installed a re-bent stock 13mm Bug bar and used it for a while. Really helped keep the front flatter and consequently the back as well. But not quite enough for me. I installed a 3/4" bar but it hits the frame due to the 2" narrowed beam, as the angled part of the bar is too close to the frame rails. So I'm building a more conventional setup with clamps and end links. I'll post pictures when it's done and tested.
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Re: Koni shocks

Postby RVosari » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:10 am

Well... we have a roll-center...and a roll-axis

Which "roll component" do you mean #-o

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Re: Koni shocks

Postby TomD » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:54 pm

Larry Question: KYB has two shocks that work: the Excel-G and the Gas-A-Just. Have you experience with both and you explain the difference? The Excel-G appears to be the OE replacement...
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