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Postby RS-60 mark » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:56 pm

Dman, I'll take an educated guess based on experience that you will still be an \"onlooker\" in October. It would be wonderful if I'm proven wrong, but I'm feeling pretty confident with that projection.

Sorry to be the one to lay it on. :(

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Postby D_Man » Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:18 am

Mark,
my patience is wearing thin with Greg Leach, I have asked him to just ship my car as is . I am just worn out with him and the excuses, dealing with him has made buying a Spyder a nightmare. He has not done one thing in the last six month's he promised me. I just don't get him at all. I hope you are wrong Mark, as he will have a butt load of attorneys after him by then, because I will call out the dogs.

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Postby D_Man » Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:30 am

RS-60 mark wrote:I can't imagine any reason to think he is going to keep any promises he makes in the next six months either. As you (and everyone else) should know by now, "promise keeping" is not his strong suit.

Call out the dogs now, or you will be onlooking in October. Summer is a-waste'n.

Mark,

Let's just drop the conversation, it does nobody any good to air the dirty laundry around here. Pm me if you like, I'm not going to get into this in open fourm. I just want to be one of the vintage owner's whith an actual car. And I do appoligse for hi-jacking the clutch topic.

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Postby Wayner » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:42 am

Greg, I can understand your frustration with this situation.

I can also understand the frustration of anyone waiting for parts.

Is there any advice you can give to people waiting so that they can get what they need in a timely fashion, in a way that works with you instead of against you?

I'd love to see this turn into a positive experience for everone.

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Postby sjgharib » Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:19 pm

Ebay!
I bought some stuff from Vintage recently on ebay.
I got it within the week, exactly as described. The transaction was perfect.
I notice he has a kit on there too...
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Postby Ralf » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:15 am

Hello Spyder-community,

My name is Ralf, I am writing from Germany (sorry for my English!) and this is my first post.

I read all the articles here in this forum with great interest and your knowledge and enthusiasm is impressive.
You are a nice group of people, friendly among each other and very supportive.

Why am I posting under this topic?

In Oct./Nov. 2008 I paid two instalments to \"Automotive Legends\" for a Spyder build by Russ….
As you are all aware of what happened to AL, you can easily imagine that I am in serious trouble since (has nothing to do with \"fibersteel\", as Russ never received any $ from AL).
So considering the timeline, I am far beyond of all what I could have ever imagined.
Which brings me to Greg….
I wanted to ask for some understanding for him and all other builders.
The same as Russ - I met Russ in person in Sept. 2009 and without doubt, he is one of the nicest persons ever and a real gentleman - Greg for sure is also a builder with heart and soul.
I totally agree, this doesn´t excuse weaknesses of the commercial side of business transactions, which obviously needs to be as acurat performed as it goes for his products.

Nevertheless, in view of my own experiences, instead of dealing with AL, I just wish I would have sent my money to Greg one and a half year ago…

It´s always a matter of the situation you´re in….I would give a lot to know that finally my car will arrive and would be more than happy to be told to wait for another year, but then after that, being sure to be able to bring my Spyder back to the fatherland (as Andrew likes to say…).

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Postby prototype4 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:11 am

Well Ralf, \"Delivery makes the heart grow fonder\". Then the customer and the businessman become bosom buddies (in future self-interest). It happens everytime. ;)
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Postby Ralf » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:09 am

Oh! You mean it becomes like a little piece of \"Stockholm Syndrome\" over the years? [:0]
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Postby RUPNOK » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:25 pm

Magical disappearing posts, again.
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Postby Larry Jowdy » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:30 pm

Yes, they magically disappeared....
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Postby daVinci 550 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:06 pm

... and for all involved, it's magically delicious!!! [8D]
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Postby gotowo » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:40 pm

glad to see you have finally joined Ralf ;) I have not had any dealings with Greg, so my opinion doesn't count for anything regarding vintage, but it always seem the further you are away, the more you get screwed when it comes to builders. Ralf has flown from Germany to the US twice - once to order the spyder from AL and once to try and get some kind of resolution from Russ - both to no avail over the last 18+ months. It is unfortunate that builders can brush customers aside unless you are in their face 24/7. They hope the OS customers are far enough away to string them along until they are ready as they know they won't come knocking too often.

It's been said many times before - these cottage industries such as spyder builders might produce great products (eventually), but the customer service really sucks and always leaves a bitter taste.
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Postby Iwdal » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:13 pm

My brothers have been by Vintage 8 times now to pick up parts but still no parts....
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Postby prototype4 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:44 am

Ralf wrote:Oh! You mean it becomes like a little piece of "Stockholm Syndrome" over the years? [:0]

More like, the new owner knows he will likely need the businessman again (upgrades, repair,product sourcing/recommendations, technical updates; that sort of thing). The businessman will desire some form of repeat business (access to used cars to refurbish and resell , for example) to help keep his shop running in the black . It makes prostitution seem..... virtueous, no? ;)
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Postby prototype4 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:46 am

Iwdal wrote:My brothers have bin by Vintage 8 times now but still no parts....

Bring a berserker (Wikipedia anyone?) next time! [):] It will give Greg something to talk about with the misses over dinner.
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